Be At Peace With Letting Go | A Conversation With My Two Best Mates – Ep 156

This week’s episode means a lot to me because not only do we cover some amazing topics but it is with my two best mates Moz and Joe.

We’ve witnessed each other grow, we’ve travelled together, we’ve laughed together, cried together, we’ve loved each other and hated each other, we’ve worked on various projects together and we’ve supported each other through the highest of highs and lowest of lows, so this really is a special episode for me.

And right now Joe is taking part in a fundraiser which is close to both of our hearts in which he is doing and indoor cycle, covering the distance from Wimbledon to Saint Tropez, all in support and aid of our friend and mentor Ben Chatfield, a wonderful man who has played a pivotal role in both of our lives – which we discuss later on in the episode.

**Please Donate to Ben’s Fundraiser**

During this conversation, we spoke about:

  • The magic that happens when you just do something
  • Being at peace with letting go
  • How facing up to adversary breeds excellence
  • And there’s even a load of books which we discuss, which I have written up in the show notes for you

Our Book list:


In Praise of Idleness – Russel Bertrand 

How To Think Like A White Man 

Destruction of Black Civilisation 

Decolonising the African Mind

Ijeshas and Nigerians 

Mediterranean Homesick Blues – Ben Chatfield

Standing In Line – Ben Chatfield


50th Law

Creativity Inc

That Will Never Work (Netflix book)

The Barcelona Way

Why I’m No Longer Talking To White People About Race

Black and British


Raptholgy – Wretch 32

Rise Up – Stormzy

Tao of Physics

Dream of Reason

If there is someone you feel would benefit from hearing this conversation then please make sure you share it with a friend who would enjoy listening and really take something from it 🙂

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IG: @mozzatron
IG: @jognmkn

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